No one is denying reality, I’m not even claiming you are im just saying you’re mistaken. The only laws in the USA that I know that refer to commerce as a specifically for profit enterprise are realty laws/zoning laws not shutting pertaining to 501c3 or business licenses generally.
Good then we agree they’re a commercial enterprise just not one that turns a profit, I’m not even sure how you intend to contort yourself to try to wriggle away from that admission.
A form 990 doesn’t mean they aren’t commercial either, it proves they aren’t a for profit business but that isn’t actually anything anyone is arguing though you seem to think that is the case.
Who provides the funding for the signal app again? Oh yeah by your admission a commercial enterprise the signal foundation. So who’s bending reality to their whim?
Yes the exchange here is a portion of market share in exchange for a service.
Does that old lady compete against for profit companies for market share in “getting something off the shelf”? No then that’s probably a bad example because they aren’t at all similar are they.
It doesn’t, you can exchange something without receiving anything, take for instance this conversation we’re exchanging opinion and ideals, I know I’m not getting anything out of it and I imagine you aren’t either correct?
I hope you actually read those because none of them actually support your position and notably you ignore the important definition ie. Commerce and commodity.
You get that their 501c3 allows them to act as a tax exempt business correct? Is every 501c3 a business? No, this one that acts as a business is a business, they’re just tax exempt because they can’t turn a profit legally. You keep saying I’m denying reality but dude they’re clearly a business.
It’s not bait but i kinda doubt that would change your attitude or the way you’re speaking to me for no particular reason. I will say it makes you seem less than sane if we’re being honest.
Sorry, I stepped away for a bit. I’m not rebutting a Gish gallop from someone who doesn’t understand third-grade English vocabulary and is this confident in their complete illiteracy. Commerce isn’t about competition; it’s about the exchange of goods and/or services, and you clearly don’t know what “exchange” means. I have people who actually speak English I could be talking to instead, so bye.
Also, the level of tone policing going on here is basically this video.
Seems like it would be easy to prove a business is not involved in commerce if that were in fact true. What’s strange is you’ve jumped from not commercial to flat out not involved in business which is Ludacris.
I’ve already made the argument; the rest is just a waste of my time. I’ve given up trying to play pigeon chess. Your conversations with [email protected] and [email protected] show a pattern of being a confidently incorrect moron with no understanding of how anything works and then baselessly accusing people of strawmanning you – when the reality is that what you’ve said really is just that stupid.
They accept donations in the app, on the webpage and offer a service that’s a business just a nonprofit one, they are in fact involved in commerce. Not requiring payment ≠ not gladly accepting it. Now add to that the fact you already admitted the foundation is involved in commerce makes saying the app which is wholely owned by the foundation isn’t involved in commerce they’re just working controlled by a commercial business entity a moronic thing to say.
Genius.
Also you’re a liar, you said you were done. You clearly aren’t.
I spent about 40 seconds clicking on your profile and scrolling through a few comments to make 100% sure it wasn’t worth my while to keep arguing with you. Hope that helps. And my point is that I’m done arguing the facts because it’s clear you either don’t care about them and/or you’re woefully incapable of understanding them. I don’t know which is worse, but I’m leaning toward the latter.
No one is denying reality, I’m not even claiming you are im just saying you’re mistaken. The only laws in the USA that I know that refer to commerce as a specifically for profit enterprise are realty laws/zoning laws not shutting pertaining to 501c3 or business licenses generally.
Good then we agree they’re a commercial enterprise just not one that turns a profit, I’m not even sure how you intend to contort yourself to try to wriggle away from that admission.
A form 990 doesn’t mean they aren’t commercial either, it proves they aren’t a for profit business but that isn’t actually anything anyone is arguing though you seem to think that is the case.
Who provides the funding for the signal app again? Oh yeah by your admission a commercial enterprise the signal foundation. So who’s bending reality to their whim?
Yes the exchange here is a portion of market share in exchange for a service.
Does that old lady compete against for profit companies for market share in “getting something off the shelf”? No then that’s probably a bad example because they aren’t at all similar are they.
It doesn’t, you can exchange something without receiving anything, take for instance this conversation we’re exchanging opinion and ideals, I know I’m not getting anything out of it and I imagine you aren’t either correct?
I hope you actually read those because none of them actually support your position and notably you ignore the important definition ie. Commerce and commodity.
You get that their 501c3 allows them to act as a tax exempt business correct? Is every 501c3 a business? No, this one that acts as a business is a business, they’re just tax exempt because they can’t turn a profit legally. You keep saying I’m denying reality but dude they’re clearly a business.
It’s not bait but i kinda doubt that would change your attitude or the way you’re speaking to me for no particular reason. I will say it makes you seem less than sane if we’re being honest.
Sorry, I stepped away for a bit. I’m not rebutting a Gish gallop from someone who doesn’t understand third-grade English vocabulary and is this confident in their complete illiteracy. Commerce isn’t about competition; it’s about the exchange of goods and/or services, and you clearly don’t know what “exchange” means. I have people who actually speak English I could be talking to instead, so bye.
Also, the level of tone policing going on here is basically this video.
See again strawman, no actual argument.
Seems like it would be easy to prove a business is not involved in commerce if that were in fact true. What’s strange is you’ve jumped from not commercial to flat out not involved in business which is Ludacris.
I’ve already made the argument; the rest is just a waste of my time. I’ve given up trying to play pigeon chess. Your conversations with [email protected] and [email protected] show a pattern of being a confidently incorrect moron with no understanding of how anything works and then baselessly accusing people of strawmanning you – when the reality is that what you’ve said really is just that stupid.
Thanks for admitting to profile stalking I guess?
Regardless.
They accept donations in the app, on the webpage and offer a service that’s a business just a nonprofit one, they are in fact involved in commerce. Not requiring payment ≠ not gladly accepting it. Now add to that the fact you already admitted the foundation is involved in commerce makes saying the app which is wholely owned by the foundation isn’t involved in commerce they’re just working controlled by a commercial business entity a moronic thing to say.
Genius.
Also you’re a liar, you said you were done. You clearly aren’t.
I spent about 40 seconds clicking on your profile and scrolling through a few comments to make 100% sure it wasn’t worth my while to keep arguing with you. Hope that helps. And my point is that I’m done arguing the facts because it’s clear you either don’t care about them and/or you’re woefully incapable of understanding them. I don’t know which is worse, but I’m leaning toward the latter.
Yeah that’s profile stalking so thanks for admitting to it again? Creepy but whatever.
You’re done arguing the facts because you can’t defend the indefensible.
They offer a licensed product/service.
Accept donations and take in revenue.
That’s a business they’re involved in commerce being willing to break even every single year to further a goal doesn’t make it not a business.
Yeah, you can’t win an argument so you turn to schoolyard bullying we get it Internet tough guy. Maybe make an argument or go away?