I’m saying that to formally adopt him and to formally grant citizenship, lots of paperwork would need to be done. Some of that would require lies, so although the baby might not have lied, the Kent’s would have.
First thing with a child found without parents would be to call the police. They would look for identification or signs of the parents where found. Oh, spaceship!
I mean… I don’t think the paperwork is going to account for spaceships. So… Put the spaceship in the barn, say you found him out in the field, and there’s no fraud
Lies of omission don’t count when you’re dealing with the state
Doesn’t mean the Kent’s didn’t lie, just that they might not have done anything fraudulently
Well, more like I think he predates the surveillance state, and by virtue of growing up in Kansas he’s an American and no one would consider thinking otherwise (all of this legal/illegal nonsense is pretty new historically)
I’m not trying to split hairs, but I like to spread reminders that people live where they live, and the idea you can live in a county illegally is inhuman
The original comics are older but the current movie, of we assume superman is 30 makes him born in 1995. When do you think the surveillance state started?
Your personal views don’t change the law. I too would like open borders worldwide but we’re not there and each country has sovereignty to make their own laws and decide who is a citizen and under what conditions. Bit that’s even further from the point.
I picture Superman as crashing into Kansas in like the '30s, maybe with a bit of a slippery time scale. No way it was in the '90s… But I don’t know enough about Superman to argue the point, I just find the idea really unsettling
I’m saying that to formally adopt him and to formally grant citizenship, lots of paperwork would need to be done. Some of that would require lies, so although the baby might not have lied, the Kent’s would have.
First thing with a child found without parents would be to call the police. They would look for identification or signs of the parents where found. Oh, spaceship!
I mean… I don’t think the paperwork is going to account for spaceships. So… Put the spaceship in the barn, say you found him out in the field, and there’s no fraud
Lies of omission don’t count when you’re dealing with the state
Doesn’t mean the Kent’s didn’t lie, just that they might not have done anything fraudulently
Lol, when you’re adopting a child, they certainly do. Lying to obtain a child you otherwise wouldn’t is fraud.
Anyway, were too far into hypotheticals here to make it worthwhile I get your point, you get mine. We disagree.
Either way, he’s an immigrant at the least. I think illegal immigrant. You think legal, by inconsequential lies.
Well, more like I think he predates the surveillance state, and by virtue of growing up in Kansas he’s an American and no one would consider thinking otherwise (all of this legal/illegal nonsense is pretty new historically)
I’m not trying to split hairs, but I like to spread reminders that people live where they live, and the idea you can live in a county illegally is inhuman
The original comics are older but the current movie, of we assume superman is 30 makes him born in 1995. When do you think the surveillance state started?
Your personal views don’t change the law. I too would like open borders worldwide but we’re not there and each country has sovereignty to make their own laws and decide who is a citizen and under what conditions. Bit that’s even further from the point.
Ugh…I hate every part of that
I picture Superman as crashing into Kansas in like the '30s, maybe with a bit of a slippery time scale. No way it was in the '90s… But I don’t know enough about Superman to argue the point, I just find the idea really unsettling