• TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    You know, we should re-assess many assumptions in light of emerging technologies. Even the conceptual value of labour is becoming more and more obsolete as AI and automation comes. We need a new Marx in relation to data as leverage to demand social equity, as in advocate for universal basic income/utility. Tech barons stole our data to train AI and automation, it’s only right we bear fruit from our personal information.

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        5 months ago

        That sounds concerning, but how is it different from regular taxes to collect & distribute the funds?

        I mean, besides the obvious push from them to reduce taxes to 0% as they already do in the States.

          • MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip
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            5 months ago

            Not sure it’s even possible to achieve being “completely free of corruption from moneyed lobbying”, but at least getting to a system where the legislature or whoever has the power and the will (if not absolute mandate) to continually evaluate the situation and combat corruption (sanctioning, suspending, or expelling violators; penalizing lobbyists who don’t follow the rules; amending the rules as needed to keep ahead of the problems).

            There’s just not enough real consequences for any of these people failing to live up to the standards we should expect of them.

      • Aeao@lemmy.world
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        5 months ago

        Well if my choices are

        A) live in a tyrannical oligarchy where a few powerful people hold all the power and don’t value me at all

        Or

        B) live in a tyrannical oligarchy where a few powerful people hold all the power and don’t value me at all but I have money for food…

        Man that’s a tough choice. I’ll go with B

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            5 months ago

            Really? Because you’re living in that false dilemma and and humans always have lived in that false dilemma.

            So it’s not all that false

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                5 months ago

                The sky is blue. True or false?

                Is Chicago in America or not?

                Are palm trees a tree , yes or no?

                You need to revisit the dictionary. Not every a or b choice is a false dilemma.

                • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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                  5 months ago

                  Dude, you don’t even know the difference between a decision and a question.

                  And, just for fun.

                  The sky is transparent

                  Chicago is in Kwekwe

                  Palm trees are a grass.

                  • Aeao@lemmy.world
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                    5 months ago

                    The sky isn’t transparent it’s translucent giving it a blue color. Revisit the dictionary.

                    Chicago is in America. There is also other chicagos in other places but YES Chicago is in America much like Paris is in France and another one is in Texas.

                    Palm trees aren’t grass. They are closer to grass than a tree. They aren’t trees.

                    Dictionary. Buy one.

                  • Aeao@lemmy.world
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                    5 months ago

                    Look buddy, if you want to make an argument that my joke I made is a false dilemma… by all means go ahead, the person before you already pushed that point with logic. I disagreed but at least that’s a conversation.

                    You dropped a Wikipedia link and bounced.

                    Then you respond just now with answers to my 2 choice questions ENTIRELY WRONG and the sad part is you looked up answers and still got them wrong while missing I specifically picked 2 that I thought were funny. The sky is translucent not blue. Palm trees aren’t trees.

                    It’s like every step you take is another pit-fall while you argue against my jokes. Get it together dude.

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            5 months ago

            And that worked extremely well exclusively for white men in that great society you mentioned. It leaves out “lessers” living in that society. The ones who struggled to scrape by because their homes were redlined and valueless and they just took down your neighborhood to build another toll road.

            The fact is that perfect time was only perfect for those in the chosen class. Boo.

            I think we can do better than that.

            Go read “the power broker” good book.

      • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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        5 months ago

        It’s an understandable concern but IMO if people are made aware of the value of their personal information being used to advance information age, like people learned the value of their labour during the Industrial age, then we can leverage to demand UBI. We need to be compensated for eventually losing jobs to robots, and using our information that trained the AI doing the jobs they would replace us with.

        And even if it’s not compensation by UBI, there is universal basic services in which people are provided housing and utilities unconditionally. Carbon dividend could also be a source of income to fund UBI or UBS until we achieve net zero greenhouse emissions.