They require certain features that most phones don’t have in order to be willing to support them. They want phones with GrapheneOS to be impossible to break into even by sophisticated methods such as Cellbrite so it defeats the purpose if it can be circumvented by methods that don’t involve the OS.
My current daily driver is an HMD Skyline and it’s been great thus far and repairability is good but it isn’t listed anywhere as being supported by alternative OSs.
It’s supposed to be out next year but only the highest end devices will be supported because GrapheneOS requires certain security features in the firmware and hardware that Pixel 11, the lower end Motorola devices, and the other brands don’t/won’t have.
Seems like Pixel 11 has the hardware but they turned the Arm Memory Tagging Extension (MTE) off in firmware for ‘performance’ reasons. gOS has been able to turn it back on, but the jury’s still out on whether they’ll support it as I understand it.
I looked at Motorola’s current devices to get a sense and it’s pretty sad. My plan of sticking with my used 1TB 9 Pro (non XL) holds. Honestly I need to look at phone insurance because I want to ride this thing out the full 7 years of support.
Only phones that can have the bootloader relocked by Graphene will be supported. New Motorola phones are coming but they will be expensive. Get a Pixel (not 11).
That’s just one of the things required for graphene, there are a lot of hardware security features that are also required. Only Pixels (not Pixel 11) have these so far, but the Motorola phones will change that of course.
As of now, for clarification, Pixels 6-10 series, Tablet and Fold are supported by GrapheneOS. The new Motorola phones releasing next year will also support GrapheneOS.
Google put out a surprising amount of documentation that allowed graphene to build everything they needed from the ground up. It basically wasn’t possible to do anything as secure and independent of Google software on any other model.
Ironically, the phone Google makes is the only option right now to get fully away from Google. Motorola is working with graphene to release a model that meets the main criteria, but it’s not out yet.
Patiently waiting for supported devices expansion and no i don’t want them to rush, i just don’t want to buy a new phone to be free of Google.
Pixel 4a is great and less than $100
I bought a second hand pixel 8 pro.
I get the vibe there’s not much intention to expand compatibility.
They require certain features that most phones don’t have in order to be willing to support them. They want phones with GrapheneOS to be impossible to break into even by sophisticated methods such as Cellbrite so it defeats the purpose if it can be circumvented by methods that don’t involve the OS.
Wait, is my GrapheneOS phone unlikely to be hackable by Cellbrite? That’s kind of amazing, I had no idea.
Not hard to achieve. Any zero days cdllbrite finds will be fixed by aosp asap.
Encryption works.
My current daily driver is an HMD Skyline and it’s been great thus far and repairability is good but it isn’t listed anywhere as being supported by alternative OSs.
The skyline has a locked bootloader that can’'t be unlocked by users.
Wasn’t aware of that… well shit…
They’re working with Motorola to make a device
It’s supposed to be out next year but only the highest end devices will be supported because GrapheneOS requires certain security features in the firmware and hardware that Pixel 11, the lower end Motorola devices, and the other brands don’t/won’t have.
Seems like Pixel 11 has the hardware but they turned the Arm Memory Tagging Extension (MTE) off in firmware for ‘performance’ reasons. gOS has been able to turn it back on, but the jury’s still out on whether they’ll support it as I understand it.
I looked at Motorola’s current devices to get a sense and it’s pretty sad. My plan of sticking with my used 1TB 9 Pro (non XL) holds. Honestly I need to look at phone insurance because I want to ride this thing out the full 7 years of support.
Only phones that can have the bootloader relocked by Graphene will be supported. New Motorola phones are coming but they will be expensive. Get a Pixel (not 11).
That’s just one of the things required for graphene, there are a lot of hardware security features that are also required. Only Pixels (not Pixel 11) have these so far, but the Motorola phones will change that of course.
As of now, for clarification, Pixels 6-10 series, Tablet and Fold are supported by GrapheneOS. The new Motorola phones releasing next year will also support GrapheneOS.
For clarification, only some Motorola phones, likely expensive flagship models, for now.
Yeah but can you really trust pixels? Google hardware, ewww. I would rather pay more for proper hardware
Google put out a surprising amount of documentation that allowed graphene to build everything they needed from the ground up. It basically wasn’t possible to do anything as secure and independent of Google software on any other model.
Ironically, the phone Google makes is the only option right now to get fully away from Google. Motorola is working with graphene to release a model that meets the main criteria, but it’s not out yet.
Buying a Google phone in order to get rid of Google seems sort of counterproductive, doesn’t it?
only if you can’t handle nuance
Yes
Exactly why i would like to have on the phone i have now.