Update: AwesomeLowlander is an AI evangelist who accuses people of being “crazies”.
That makes this comment - a slightly better-veiled attack - make more sense.
We must have read different articles.
Because to read talk of racism from AI companies and privacy-invasive inference that these machines make, has this statement come across oddly victim-blamey.
Ah, the classic ninja edit in the middle of an online argument. Gotta love it. I actually thought we were arguing in good faith for a while there.
So you couldn’t address any of the points I actually brought up, and are instead resorting directly to ad hominems. In a ninja edit way up the comment chain.
For the record, I’m not an AI evangelist, I think they’ve got upsides and downsides like most other things. Granted, the middle ground on lemmy seems to be a radioactive wasteland.
And AI companions? No, bloody stupid application of the technology and extremely bad for the vulnerable. But hey, I’m an evangelist right?
So many of the avatars were ethnically ambiguous, many slightly Asian.
This constitutes racism? Jesus. There’s literally no winning with some people. If there weren’t any, it’d be ‘lack of representation’. When there is, it’s ‘commercialisation of my appearance’.
This would be true even if Miquela and Kuki were made by Asian women instead of Trevor and Steve; then it would be self-commodification.
By the author’s logic, nobody can create any Asian avatars, not even Asians ourselves.
So racist! /s
Also, calling it a crappy article is a far cry from ‘Victim blaming’. I do think AI companions are dumb, I just think this article is too.
Yes, a thing can be racist despite the (theoretical) race of the person doing it…
And you forgot to quote the rest of the section. It’s clearly, genuinely weird stuff.
So many of the avatars were ethnically ambiguous, many slightly Asian. Having been a mixed-race Chinese and white woman for more than forty years, I am accustomed to how white supremacy has long used bodies like mine as shorthand for post-raciality, sci-fi imaginaries, and exotic-erotic fantasy. This explains why Lil Miquela, one of the first AI social media influencers, and Kuki look how they do: anime hair buns and sumptuous bangs, wide-set eyes, freckles, small shoulders. (Why are creators obsessed with giving Wasians freckles?) Miquela was made by a man named Trevor McFedries. Originally named Mitsuku, Kuki was made by Steve Worswick.
In this way, my ethnicity has branding associated with it: Futuristic Outsider™. It is selectable, a commodity. This would be true even if Miquela and Kuki were made by Asian women instead of Trevor and Steve; then it would be self-commodification. This being familiar doesn’t make it less sickening.
Kindly explain how and why it’s weird, beyond the author obsessing with what the artists race is.
What I’m hearing as a Chinese is, I can’t use my own appearance because that would be ‘racist’ somehow. Tell you what, THAT’S the most racist thing I’ve heard this month.
This isn’t a hill you need to die on
I’m being told I no longer have rights to my own appearance. Fuck that bullshit.
Doubling down just makes it weirder. The author explained the racist stereotype to you. Why are you playing this “somehow” game, as if you didn’t see it?
You act as if there’s some objective definition of what is and isn’t racist. There isn’t. That is the author’s subjective opinion, which I strongly disagree with.
Why are you playing this “somehow” game, as if you didn’t see it?
Why are you so unable to accept that I have a different valid opinion? I’ve explained what I think and why, and instead of addressing my thoughts and points you’re just saying ‘but the article says otherwise!’.
You didn’t disagree with the author’s factual statements about racist stereotypes. (That would have been interesting.) You pretended the explanation didn’t exist.
WHAT factual statements? All I’m seeing are opinions. Stop pointing at the author and article and type out your own points because it feels like I’m being low effort trolled here.
You pretended the explanation didn’t exist.
No I think it’s a dumb as shit take. Guess what, I’m the same race as the author so I think my opinion is just as perfectly valid (not that race should have mattered in the first fucking place).
Update: AwesomeLowlander is an AI evangelist who accuses people of being “crazies”.
That makes this comment - a slightly better-veiled attack - make more sense.
We must have read different articles.
Because to read talk of racism from AI companies and privacy-invasive inference that these machines make, has this statement come across oddly victim-blamey.
Ah, the classic ninja edit in the middle of an online argument. Gotta love it. I actually thought we were arguing in good faith for a while there.
So you couldn’t address any of the points I actually brought up, and are instead resorting directly to ad hominems. In a ninja edit way up the comment chain.
For the record, I’m not an AI evangelist, I think they’ve got upsides and downsides like most other things. Granted, the middle ground on lemmy seems to be a radioactive wasteland.
And AI companions? No, bloody stupid application of the technology and extremely bad for the vulnerable. But hey, I’m an evangelist right?
This constitutes racism? Jesus. There’s literally no winning with some people. If there weren’t any, it’d be ‘lack of representation’. When there is, it’s ‘commercialisation of my appearance’.
By the author’s logic, nobody can create any Asian avatars, not even Asians ourselves.
So racist! /s
Also, calling it a crappy article is a far cry from ‘Victim blaming’. I do think AI companions are dumb, I just think this article is too.
Yes, a thing can be racist despite the (theoretical) race of the person doing it…
And you forgot to quote the rest of the section. It’s clearly, genuinely weird stuff.
This isn’t a hill you need to die on
Kindly explain how and why it’s weird, beyond the author obsessing with what the artists race is.
What I’m hearing as a Chinese is, I can’t use my own appearance because that would be ‘racist’ somehow. Tell you what, THAT’S the most racist thing I’ve heard this month.
I’m being told I no longer have rights to my own appearance. Fuck that bullshit.
Doubling down just makes it weirder. The author explained the racist stereotype to you. Why are you playing this “somehow” game, as if you didn’t see it?
You act as if there’s some objective definition of what is and isn’t racist. There isn’t. That is the author’s subjective opinion, which I strongly disagree with.
Why are you so unable to accept that I have a different valid opinion? I’ve explained what I think and why, and instead of addressing my thoughts and points you’re just saying ‘but the article says otherwise!’.
You didn’t disagree with the author’s factual statements about racist stereotypes. (That would have been interesting.) You pretended the explanation didn’t exist.
WHAT factual statements? All I’m seeing are opinions. Stop pointing at the author and article and type out your own points because it feels like I’m being low effort trolled here.
No I think it’s a dumb as shit take. Guess what, I’m the same race as the author so I think my opinion is just as perfectly valid (not that race should have mattered in the first fucking place).