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Cake day: September 13th, 2023

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  • Why choose that stuff to follow but ignore the mixed cloth and tattoo parts?

    The mixed cloth and tattoo parts are from the Old Testament, which many Christians believe was superseded by the sacrifice of Christ. A new covenant - Abraham didn’t sacrifice Isaac, but God sacrificed his son. No longer a need to sacrifice in the temple, no longer a need to follow dietary laws.

    There’s nothing in the text of the Bible that justifies a “pro life” position. The only part that mentions abortion is an Old Testament verse about forcing a woman who is suspected of cheating to drink something that will cause an abortion.

    The language used by Paul in the New Testament about gay men is ambiguous and could easily be interpreted to only prohibit pedophilic sex.

    Several of “Paul’s” letters in the New Testament are known forgeries. It’s very easy to “pick and choose” to reject those. One could even reject Paul entirely.

    It’s a text written in multiple different ancient languages. It’s not cut and dry always that “the Bible says this.” (Same with other ancient texts - most translations of the I Ching are absolutely bonkers in how they look nothing alike.)

    Even if someone would want to call themselves a “literalist,” there’s clearly poetry and figurative language. I don’t think anyone has baby dear for mammaries.

    You cannot flatten Christianity like this. The fundamentalist interpretation/“Biblical literalist” interpretation is really a product of the 19th century (as is fundamentalist Islam - these are both tied to more widespread literacy in the world). It’s not one coherent ideology you can throw r/atheism logical “gotchas!” at.

    A lot of shit that is part of mainstream Christianity isn’t even biblical. The Satan and hell most imagine is more from Milton and Dante than it is from the text of the Bible.

    Religions aren’t their texts - even the ones that purport to be. They’re centuries of folk traditions and interpretations stacked on those ambiguous texts.








  • There are different forms of slavery. The US was unique in that it was a system of race based chattel slavery, and really, the idea of “race” was invented alongside it.

    Slavery in west Africa would often mean that the person would end up being integrated into the tribe over a long period of time (varies immensely group by group, but still the general trend). In the Middle East, Muslims were not allowed to hold other Muslims as slaves, so sometimes conversion could be a ticket out (there’s some funny complexities there).

    Slavery in the US was a uniquely barbarous institution. It was industrialized, it treated people as resources. Perhaps an especially brutal Roman latifunda could compare in an individual’s experience, but even then, a freeman in Roman society would still be about equivalent to most every one else.

    Slavery didn’t stop in the US after it ended. Tons of masters chose not to tell their slaves that the Emancipation Proclamation had freed them until sometimes decades after the fact. After the Civil War, the KKK ran a campaign to terrorize Black communities. Communities also immediately passed things like vagrancy laws, which started the system of slavery as punishment for a crime that we still have today.

    There have been forces in the US attempting to minimize slavery since before the ink was even dry on the peace treaty. Please do not join them.