I have nothing against Qubes, I just don’t consider it a reasonable daily driver. I’m not arguing. It’s great software.

Socializing can be done without an argument. Weird, right?

Yeah, it’s neat. It’ll be very interesting to see how useful it’ll be on fairly low-end SoC.

I’m aware. It was just a quick example. Here, this should make you feel better I guess?:

https://www.csoonline.com/article/561467/xen-hypervisor-faces-third-highly-critical-vm-escape-bug-in-10-months.html

It seems Xen has it’s fair share of issues. https://xenbits.xen.org/xsa/

They’re just basic Linux installs is what I mean. QubesOS isn’t much different than having a different computer running each piece of software on your LAN.

It’s a bit of an apples to oranges comparison, though. Desktop vs mobile. Hell, I’d hardly even compare Qubes to any Linux distro. It’s so niche and clunky to use as a daily driver. It’s basically just a hypervisor. A better comparison might be secureblue.

And a guest escaping is definitely not unheard of. https://www.techtimes.com/articles/319941/20260708/linux-kvm-guest-host-escape-hits-both-intel-amd-two-cves-required.htm

QubesOS is interesting. It basically throws every application in it’s own VM and firewalls each other off. It’s not a bad strategy at all, and they’ve integrated everything neatly, but it’s not hardened like GrapheneOS. It’s not something I’d personally want to daily drive, especially on a laptop, but neither is Android Desktop.

Valve is killing it. They must have some incredible plans.

No, not even desktop Linux. GrapheneOS is the most secure OS that I’m aware of. Android desktop mode has me a little excited. It’s not bad right now, but I wouldn’t want to work on it all day.

There’ll be an affordablish phone eventually. I’m just so happy more options are becoming available.

I’d love a Linux phone like yesterday, but it’s going to be a looong time until we have a Linux phone on par with GrapheneOS. Who knows, maybe the GrapheneOS team will be behind the year of the Linux phone. <3