• Texas_Hangover@sh.itjust.works
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    3 days ago

    Yeah, governments never fuck up. Better just have one big unstoppable one. Real genius level thinking there. Can’t go wrong.

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      3 days ago

      If all the wind farms are owned by one entity they can’t steal wind from each other.

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        3 days ago

        That necessitates everyone in that entity agreeing.

        That’s the problem.

        You’re not being downvoted for a utopian worldwide government being something people don’t want, you’re being downvoted for being too unrealistic.

        Yeah, if everyone agreed and there was only one entity, the wind wouldn’t be an issue, probably. And neither would wars or famine or poverty.

        But… they are.

        Simply stating “oh why don’t we all just get along” is just… kinda silly.

        If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.

        — Scottish proverb

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          Yes, at the core I have the same perspective as the op, but realistically it’s never gonna be “one government” it’s gonna be a huge mess with local governments, alliances, treaties, delegations and so on and so forth. I kinda think that might be a good thing though, the layers of democracy are a safeguard.

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            I’d agree that with a very high probability, not in our lifetimes.

            However I don’t like using the word “never”. When I was reading science mags and pop sci in the late 90’s and early 2000’s, organ printing etc may have been mentioned, but no-one even floated the idea of practical immortality. Now theres actual fields of science looking into longevity, some claiming that our ability to enhance longevity may actually outpace our aging at some point.

            I do agree that strong government and fundamental democracy is important, but the reason we have election cycles and not basically real life feedback is just a silly tradition dating back thousands of years when people actually couldn’t communicate and interact as we do now. We could build stronger democracies and stronger safeguards. What if Trump actually derailing shit this bad would mean an objectively low score on some system, triggering a vote which everyone can participate through on their phone (given we imagine it’s secure) and give a vote of no confidence or smth. Actual democracy?

            Putting those fantasies aside, it’s still possible for a Star Trek-esque utopia to emerge one day. Although I see it as less and less possible every day. However even in ST canon there’s WWIII and it takes a while to settle after that.

            Current track are headed more likely to a dystopia, for sure, but revolutions have happened in the past and I’m sure as shit not going to give up hope.