Honestly, I would fall into this trap.
The federal agent genuinely sounds like she is a person having car trouble, this trap would work on me because I guess I too am a fundamentally decent person.
Honestly, I would fall into this trap.
The federal agent genuinely sounds like she is a person having car trouble, this trap would work on me because I guess I too am a fundamentally decent person.
Depends on who it changes to. If a miracle happens and it’s somehow an actual progressive/left candidate and not just an establishment dem then it could happen. It’s just that, yknow, it depends on getting a progressive elected…
Vote in the primaries and get a progressive candidate on the center stage so we have half a hope these fucks will face actual consequences
Unfortunately the primaries are rigged, and it’s legal. We know this because the DNC was sued after 2016 and admitted it in court.
We’re not getting a progressive anywhere near the presidency.
Damn I didn’t know about that lawsuit. Apparently some Bernie supporters sued the DNC for rigging things in favor of Hillary:
Sounds like they didn’t rig any votes, just didn’t give them a fair race. Which, that’s still bad, but workable. We should still vote in primaries; this just highlights the need to volunteer and make sure people know which candidate is truly the best, even when their own supposed “allies” are working against them
That’s some hair-splitting right there. They were quoted as saying it’s their right to hold unfair primaries, in court, which to me is as good as an admission.
But we know they’re rigged. It’s why superdelegates were invented, and why Bernie never had a chance despite being immensely more popular than Hillary.
True reform will only happen without elections
You’re not getting a progressive because you aren’t trying. You can’t get enough people to win a popular vote once. DNC doesn’t even need to rig anything, the only people who actually do political activism are those “establishment democrats”.
Progressives either don’t do shit other than bitching on twitter, or there are so little of them so their effort is in vain. I don’t know what is worse. You can say what you want how primaries are “rigged” because delegates don’t do what you personally don’t want them to do, but fact of the matter is, Bernie also lost the popular vote quite definitively.
In the history of DNC, there was only one time when delegates didn’t chose the same candidate as the people, and that was when Obama lost the popular vote to Clinton by almost 1%.
lol, why is it almost always aggrieved Clinton stans?
Incidentally, the Clinton bit is such a stretch it’s fair to call it a lie.
https://www.factcheck.org/2008/06/clinton-and-the-popular-vote/
The fact there was a mere 1% difference in the votes she received despite her getting an entire extra state compared to him shows how wildly popular he was. Ignoring that would have been choosing a different candidate than the people were choosing; they didn’t make some incredible decision that paid off because they know better than their voters, they just knew what would have happened if both their names had been on that ballot and knew which way the wind was blowing.
It’s deeply weird to me that you assumed I stan Clinton when I just point out this deeply funny statistic. The fact that you assumed I stan her might say something about your motivation and ideas than you care to admit.
It even prevented you from understanding why I brought up this and what it means for the “everything is rigged, nothing we do matters, better not to do anything” side of this argument.
L-O-Fucking L.
The alternative explanation that “you” are trying and failing spectacularly.
None of that makes me l-o-fucking-l to be honest.