• merc@sh.itjust.works
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    7 hours ago

    When Bush got the US into a war in the middle east, he at least did it after a terrorist attack on the US (which had nothing to do with Iraq, but he was able to fudge that part), and as a result of the stupidity of Americans, he had a 60+% approval rating at the time.

    Trump didn’t even manage a false flag or anything, as a result, a lot of conservatives are pissed off about this. Probably not enough to crack the MAGA coalition, but every little bit chipped away from it helps. With margins in the senate and house so close, it’s actually possible that he could be stopped by congress and the US doesn’t become a failed state, instead merely becoming an illiberal democracy.

    But, what I wonder is if this will actually win him any converts from the Democratic side. I bet there are ultra pro-Israel people who were formerly Democrats who actually think this is a good idea, and will now start supporting Trump. Still, I think he’s going to lose 90 MAGAs for every 10 Democrats he gains.

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      2 minutes ago

      The dems have been supporting genocide for a long time. They’ve always been with Trump when it comes to anti-arab racism.

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      1 hour ago

      60+%

      It was 90%. Only 10% of Americans were capable of resisting the massive propaganda apparatus that manufactures consent at the start of every war of aggression. Vietnam was also very popular at the start.

      But you are right that he’s doing this without a strong justification. From what I’ve seen, mainstream media is still on his side, they love war, great for business. Whether enough Americans have learned anything from the disaster of the War on Terror to make any sort of lasting dent in the number capable of resisting propaganda remains to be seen, you’d think Vietnam would have but it’s always “different this time,” and people are frequently “anti-war, except the current one.”