The warning was direct, blunt and left no room for doubt. “We expect all ICC actions against the United States and our ally Israel – that is, all investigations and all arrest warrants – to be terminated,” said Reed Rubinstein, legal adviser at the US State Department, before delegates of the 125 member states of the International Criminal Court (ICC) on Tuesday, July 8, at a meeting at United Nations headquarters in New York from July 7 to 9.

If the ICC arrest warrants for crimes against humanity and war crimes issued against Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and former defense minister Yoav Gallant on November 21, 2024, as well as ongoing investigations into crimes committed in the Gaza Strip and the settlement of Palestinian territory, are not dropped, “all options remain on the table,” he declared.

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      And the UK and Germany. Two of the supporters in the EU.

      Germany has disgusted me, they spent so long trying to make amends they elected a race to superiority. Spineless hypocrites.

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        they spent so long trying to make amends

        Did they really though? They worked to appease their guilt but never really dealt with the underlying reasons it happened in the first place.

        Most of those that did the dirty work during ww2 just went home after and carried on.

        Same with the British. Most people have no idea about how or why all the shit in the middle east started or why it continues.

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        they elected a race to superiority

        Unless a member of that race is against Israel, then you’ll get sometimes the nicest kinds of things like “or, so then it was all right for you?” from them - that being about Holocaust.

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    Yep well considering the US leadership is basically following 1930s Germany as a guide.

    The exact reason the ICC was formed. Yeah objections are to be expected.

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    I think it’s time for the ICC to start issuing arrest warrants for US leaders, their backers and their repugnant little think tanks

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      Member countries would have to divest from the dollar first. We got everyone to use our currencies as a form of stabilizing politics and now we have a group of bad actors using that to their advantage.

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        BRICS is making headway with that.

        The US empire is already in decline. What it’s allies need to work out is when to jump ship

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          BRICS has the downside of including Russia.

          It might not seem that way, but Russia is actually the shittiest of USA’s minions. Its “independent” actions like war with Ukraine are no more independent in fact than those of Saudis.

          It’s definitely aligned with the stinkier part of USA’s elites, but somehow had good enough relationship with all of them.

          Maybe reforming UN as a candidate for some actual world confederation would be a better idea.

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        EUR is honestly a better reserve currency, more stable already.

        About divesting from dollars - I dunno how hard this is. Probably would be better for the US to provoke it to signal that time is nigh. Because otherwise this can only happen very slowly.

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    There is no statue of limitations on genocide. And Trump won’t be president forever. And younger Americans (i.e. the future) are really fucking sick of Israel’s shit.

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        They don’t have to. They just have to stop blocking other nations from doing so, e.g. via UN vetoes and various sanctions against ICC.

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      And Trump won’t be president forever.

      So? The previous administration had the same policy on Israel, as do both parties currently.

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        The American public used to broadly support Israel. That support has plummeted in the last 2 years, particularly among younger Americans. As they age into a more prominent voting demographic, this changes the types of platforms that politicians run, and win on.

        I want to point out that the shift in opinion is more a generational one than left/right one, even though there is a notable difference between the parties.

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      Nah, the more time passes, the less incentive there is for many people to pursue justice when there are newer things on their plates.

      Same as modern Web’s “attention economy”.

      But frankly in classical cultures they knew that too, catch the moment, now or never.

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      I think this is, in large part, one of the reasons many of these authoritarian types get out of control.

      On some level they know whether or not they consider their actions to be illegal that other people will. At some point they anticipate blowback and a lot of their flailing overreach stems directly from trying to get out ahead of any consequences that may come their way.

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    warns

    No; “threatens”. Get it right, news headline writers! It’s not a warning but a threat.

    It’s like how most Canadians view America as a threat and not a warning (oh, wait. Maybe we do see it as a warning too, as we have our own soulless charlatan oilman scumbag politicians).

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      the most galling thing about this is that most will continue to insist that we’re still following the rules based world order.

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        The “rules for you not for me” world order is just in effect as usual

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        And they’d be right; the whole point of the phrase “rules based international order”, is that it invokes the good connotations of “international law”, while not actually meaning anything like international law, and instead just meaning brutal western hegemony.

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          i guess it’s just another example of people not bothering to look beneath the surface of a soundbite or slogan that sounds good.

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      "U.S. President George Bush today signed into law the American Servicemembers Protection Act of 2002, which is intended to intimidate countries that ratify the treaty for the International Criminal Court (ICC). The new law authorizes the use of military force to liberate any American or citizen of a U.S.-allied country being held by the court, which is located in The Hague. This provision, dubbed the “Hague invasion clause,” has caused a strong reaction from U.S. allies around the world, particularly in the Netherlands.

      In addition, the law provides for the withdrawal of U.S. military assistance from countries ratifying the ICC treaty, and restricts U.S. participation in United Nations peacekeeping unless the United States obtains immunity from prosecution. At the same time, these provisions can be waived by the president on “national interest” grounds. "

      https://www.hrw.org/news/2002/08/03/us-hague-invasion-act-becomes-law

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      Whatever you voted for trump or harris you are complicit . Don’t talk about we have no choice but two vote to the two evil parties

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        I mean, you can’t be complicit if you voted for Kamala because she has and had zero say on foreign policy. A vote for Biden 2020, sure. So one is only complicit if they voted for Trump.