• phutatorius@lemmy.zip
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    Let’s see what happens if I start promoting atheism and mocking belief in Bronze Age alpha males in the sky.

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    I’m sure when atheists and satanists start proselytising there will be outrage - “we really meant Christians should allowed to bother their co-workers not you guys”

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      I bet you a coke this is to fuck with the FFRF and MRFF, two great orgs trying to keep religion out of our gov.

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    Time to found Epsteinology, a religion based around the release and realization of the Great Nefarious Files to bring about the Grand Awakening and destruction of the Orange Menace for the good of all Humanity.

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    So this is where the new new atheist movement will start.

    Also, remember epstein? whatever happened to that guy?

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    I don’t think people really understand what’s comming. Everyone’s like “so now everyone can talk about their respective religion, haha”. But where I see this going is only the one right religion being acceptable in near future and everyone who’s making clever remarks being outlawed and prosecuted. The fact we’re not there yet makes the obvious progression to that none the less scary.

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      I don’t think you realize that christians aren’t as popular as they were before. There are a LOT of others and non religious. I don’t think christians are going to enjoy the process as much as they think.

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        Frankly, I’d never hire or do business with a fundie. It’s hard to put my finger on it, but there’s something about their desire to enslave or kill nonbelievers that makes me uncomfortable.

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          You misunderstand, when they inevitably try that, and try to continue the “Christian nation” shit, there will be a backlash, and the violence will likely get out of control. I would not be at all surprised to see a concentrated effort to murder Christians by mobs. Christians have gone so long without facing ANY BACKLASH whatsoever for their continued depravity. It will happen and they will cry about how much of victims they are.

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            I’m pressing X. The christo part of christofascism is well embedded. Just like with this epstein thing, if the ‘deep state’ under trump tried to rid themselves of the christian part by not enforcing the law in christians’ favor, they would rattle a significant part of their base. Also, we are LITERALLY seeing an entire segment of our nation (something like 40+ million strong) be targeted by this administration, and the most we can do is filming the masked guys doing it and having some city walk-arounds to show our irritation.

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        True Christians find all this behavior disgusting. It is just capitalizing on a faith for profit and control while bringing harm to those that can’t pay the admission fee and/or have the wrong skin color.

        What’s going on is religious terrorism/extremism, and taking advantage of the dumbs to enable it.

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          I do genuinely feel bad for the people who actually attempt to live by the words of Christ. They will be hit in the backlash much the same as other Christians, undeservedly.

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    Time to start turning my coworkers into atheists.

    All jokes aside, this ends when we ban orginized religion.

    Nobody should be publicly religious. Do it in your own home.

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      I haven’t worked in an office since before the pandemic, but back when I did I had super religious republican guy who sat to my left. On his left there was another lefty atheist like myself. 3 years later we had him voting for Biden and doubting his entire faith.

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          3-4 years of being proven incorrect day in and day out does that I think. Takes persistence. I still keep in contact with the guy actually. He’s a really good guy, just was very ignorant on a lot of things. I’ve heard he’s had a lot of arguments with the very conservative side of his family since then.

          My mother, on the other hand, nearly 80 years old and completely brainwashed. No amount of persistence would ever work on her. Unfortunately, I think thats the reality for the majority of the MAGA idiots.

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      So your jokes weren’t aside. “I only want people to be publicly atheist and nothing else.”

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        Asking people to be sane and use some critical thinking in the face of proselytizing woo woo nonsense and rubbish is a reasonable thing to do.

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        Personally I wish we could all be publicly nothig. Not religious, not atheist. Let’s not talk about it all, at all.

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          Atheism is funny what else has a name for not believing in something.

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            Republican = not believing in science and/or data

            Jokes aside, what a weirdly leading question that doesn’t actually lead anywhere— the only reason it is given a name is because the social dominance of theism necessitated the distinction.

            There are also plenty of phrases regarding the rejection of something. Put “anti” at the front of plenty of philosophies or systems and boom, there you go.

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        I don’t think we should hire any Catholics because they believe eat humans and drinking their blood is legitimately okay. The people who believe God decides anything in day to day life should all be fired for not being able to accept scientific theory, which is the same scientific theory that drives the economy in which this company runs. I mean come on they are clearly braindead drones who believe anything they are told and have proven they can’t innovate anything new that could help us. Also all Muslims are terrorists, they’ve been proving it on the news every night for decades, we shouldn’t hire them either.

        In most companies they would just get rid of you for talking about the news / politics. If you fire someone for preaching their religion the company can be sued for illegally terminating an employee do to their religious beliefs. It’s not a good idea.

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          Either you’re a troll or a religious zealot.

          I don’t think companies should get rid of people for talking about news and politics in a respectful manner

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            I find you calling me a religious zealot to be hindering my right to tell you why you’re going to hell for the next 8 hours as is my given right now. In fact I think HR may find it pertinent to know you were calling people religious zealots for practicing their legal rights at work.

            …it isn’t trolling, it was the discussion as to why this is a bad idea.

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              You called Muslims zealots, and Christians cannibals and stupid.

              Smells like an Atheist religious zealot to me.

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                No I called Catholics cannibals, which they believe they are. The Eucharist being the actual transformation into the body and blood of Christ is one of the main differences between Catholics and some protestant denominations that split off. Methodists for instance, do not. Lutheran’s believe it is a physical transformation and not just a spiritual ceramony one either.

                Thereby, they intentionally eat a person’s flesh and blood every Sunday, or rather they try to.

                Also I never called Muslims Zealots, I called them terrorists, because that’s what I learned from the news. Which was obvious satire… Zealots are obsessive, not necessarily terrorists. A good example of zealots would be the Jesuits.

                (Though one could argue Jesuits were church sanctioned terrorists… But that’s besides the point)

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                  Uh… I’m pretty sure the catholics believe strongly in the principle of transubstantiation. It’s still taught at the teenage level before confirmation. That is the exact opposite of what you’re claiming the lutherans believe, which, seeing as I remember my ‘lessons’ in one of the synods’ influence, lutherans don’t even really claim the transubstantiation is a real thing.

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      As an atheist, faith should be warmly invited, and traditions should be celebrated. You don’t have to have anything to do with it. You can assert yourself without assuming you know what people think and classifying their worship. And, on another note: these are human tales. You think books that took generations to compile don’t have a few nuggets of hard earned wisdom? Do you read Frankenstein and dismiss it because it’s ludicrous?

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        hard disagree. we should allow them, but we definitely shouldn’t be inviting and celebrating them. All religion does is undermine society and prop up the rich and powerful.

        religion can get fucked.

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          You’re simply wrong. That is not all that religion does. You and I have both seen, in person, the power of faith. This hard-line science approach is toxic. As somebody who has been entrenched in theoretical physics for 15 years and is currently running my own relativistic model, I can tell you with confidence that these physicists love selling half-truths and relying on rote memorization. Let alone interference from intelligence agencies. The scientists they shove in your face are not the ones from the Manhatten Project. They are incrementalists trained to mind their calculations and suppress dissent. This is a simple, obvious fact of a post-mutual destruction age.

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            Sure you are. Religion is is just a way to control the masses and always has been.

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              I’m going to add, you’re confusing atheism with nihilism. You’re a disrespectful bubble boy who needs to develop your social skills. Other people are important to your brain development, and your empathy and ego are profoundly undeveloped. Want some science dogma? Philosophies of mind, like Buddhism are really just pointing toward smooth operation between body and mind. 3 parts to your brain: conscious, subconscious, and other people. We are social primates with mirror neurons and facial recognition. That input is important for brain development. That’s where you get ego and empathy. Work on it. Meditation is easy. Going outside and talking to people is easy.

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          Thank you. I identified the parts of the machine, from the military-industrial-intelligence complex to the Epstein honeypot operation. This confirms my final hypothesis: The motivation is theological. An elite death/apocalypse cult. I suspected it because of the nature of the honeypot operation. Could have been gambling or personal blackmail. No. The desecration of innocence was a ritual, and the island, a temple. Revealing the final inner circle. The high priests of a cult. You can find their rituals being portrayed as frat-like behavior.

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      Banning religion has been tried, It doesn’t work. Banning the awful things that religion makes people do is a better option.

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        Authoritarianism comes in many forms. Didn’t any of you read 1984? I mean, don’t waste your time - there’s way better materials to learn from, but Thought Police, anyone? Also, no idea why you’re getting downvoted. You atheists are dogmatic as fuck. I’m an atheist. Hey, let’s ban Islam. That’s how you sound.

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        There are multiple countries who have already banned orginized religion.

        It is the next step of human society.

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    i’m waiting for this to backfire on him as muslims openly pray in their workplace at the designated times

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    This is the time to start invoking all of the gods for a more dynamic and adaptive office environment.

    “Listen, Ryan, I’m gonna need you to ask yourself what Enki would do in this situation, ok? You’re giving Enlil when I need an Enki. Dammit, get your head in the game. Have you not been keeping up on this stuff? Seriously, if you’ve been experimenting with that Jesus stuff again I’m gonna come unglued, I swear. Get off the fuckin cross already, jeez.”

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    Every job I’ve ever had, my coworkers and I have pretty openly discussed the ‘taboo’ shit like religion and politics. We can generally keep the flames under control, and if shit does start to heat up we’ll change the topic knowing that the conversation isn’t going anywhere at that point… but ultimately it’s been a consistent point of growth for pretty much everyone involved.

    Coming from the Trump regime, I can only assume it means “convert your non-christian coworkers to christianity, and other application of this policy will get you fired” so, 100% fuck this shit. Coming from less of an absolute shitstain traitor, I’d actually be in favor of this kind of rhetoric. Maintain policies requiring professional behavior and prohibiting harassment so that those who don’t want to discuss it are empowered to shut the conversation up; but in a consensual setting, sure I’ll hear you pitch coming to Jesus or w/e - so long as you’re equally receptive to my counterargument.

    That’s not how it’s gonna work, so again, fuck everything about this, but fuck if it doesn’t hint at a nice sounding ideal.

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      My I introduce the reverse loophole.

      Blaspheme against the holy spirit, that piece of shit.

      Doing so is the only unforgivable sin. Do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars. Straight to hell with you and there is nothing anyone can do about it. Not even their god. By blaspheming against the holy spirit, that fake garbage, you are putting up the shield against christians. They can’t save you, you have no reason to convert, it is a waste of their time…please leave me alone.

      Now, if anyone can give me reverse loopholes for other religions, that would be great.

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          Technically that doesn’t even work with christianity. You have to very specifically blaspheme against the holy spirit, who is most definitely a child rapist on the Epstein list. You can call their god whatever name you want, deny Jesus, worship any form of metallic idol you want - you still can get through the door to heaven. It takes a special kind of statement - like saying the holy spirit isn’t even real and only exists because whatever man made it all up was accused of copying off of some other religion and just made up even more bullshit so their “nuh uh” had more weight.

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            That’s not what the blaspheming of the Holy Spirit is at all.

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              Oh, it isn’t? What’s your definition if not Merriam-Webster’s? Or do we look to the holy spirit for the definition? Because in my understanding that thing can’t even spell much less string together a coherent definition of what it means to blaspheme.

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                Traditionally, blaspheming the holy spirit is taken as denying the existence thereof. As soon as you believe in it and convert to christianity, the sin no longer exists and is ‘forgiven.’ The reason it is “unforgiveable” is because you literally cannot ask for forgiveness and to “receive christ in your heart” without believing in it.

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      I agree with you. On surface, it is a good thing. But again, this is Trump speaking.

      I think maybe someone should convert Trump to Christianity.