If you don’t want it to be slop, don’t grind culture into a slurry, run half the worlds electricity through it, all for it to generate child porn. Actually fuck off.
I use AI a lot to make clipart but to be honest I didn’t know about the Twitter AI because I’m not on Twitter.
Will you then pay for my next RAM purchase? Because it is your fault that prices have skyrocketed.
It’s mostly NVIDIA and OpenAI fault, if you want to be honest.
No. I blame the users for creating a market by using it. If no one was interested in that bullshit, then that industry would have collapsed 2-3 years ago. There will always be psychopaths with “business ideas” that do fuck all for this planet or the living beings roaming on it. Can’t prevent that. But the general masses enabling them? That’s definitely on every single one of them.
The market isn’t growing due to demand, though. AI is being pushed by businesses and investors hoping that demand will appear in the future. They’re burning through tons of cash, not growing naturally due to user interest.
If everyone was completely boycotting this machine learning bullshit, they wouldn’t stand a chance pushing it. Apps “offering” LLM bullshit? Use other software.
Support chat forces chatbot on you? Call them by the number on the imprint. And if that doesn’t work - send them a letter with a notice period to respond.
“Vibe coders” submitting pull requests? Tell them to shove their plagiarism where the sun don’t shine.
I have not had to use LLM snake oil even once to date, and I don’t plan on accepting it anywhere. Ig everyone did that, the “technology” would have been dead on arrival.
While it’s true that some demand is related, the vast vast majority of the spend is speculative on what AI might be and assuming that if it manages to be the thing of their dreams, it will demand exponentially more resources than the current LLM slop.
They are spending this money without clear indication that the demand they want is there. For example, OpenAI at one point claimed that, by now, businesses would be paying them $50k/year for a single ‘instance’ of LLM, good for equivalent to one human headcount.
They are currently betting that at some point, they’ll effectively fix the lack of actual reasoning (a number of AI enthusiasts will claim that AI can have an entirely distinct thing from any reasoning we have ever known but still call it reasoning, which is a pretty stupid cop out). And/or they’ll translate this reliably to robotics (so far this has ended up being pretty elusive, investors assumed the same fake language that passes for executive-speak means it could apply to menial manual labor, but it hasn’t worked yet).
But yeah, refraining from using these services would deflate the expectations more quickly, enough people toying around with it sparks the imagination of what the execs think they can get for it…
I understand your reasoning, but I disagree - I am sure that if 90% of people to whom “AI” was marketed would react with a “fuck off with that bullshit”, they wouldn’t ever have gotten the funding they have to begin with.
Oh, that’s why you’re blaming me. You think the free market is real, like as in something that exists in real life.
Well, that’s dumb. I don’t think it’s my fault. They’re not making any money off of me using their AI. They’re just bullshitting so that people give them fake money. I don’t think I can do anything about that.
But yeah, I’ll stop using AI if it means that people are generating fake nudes all the time. That’s weird to me, I don’t want to be part of that. I’ll have to go back to Artstudio Pro, even though it kind of sucks, it’s only $20.
It’s your fault for using that shit and contributing to its widespread acceptance, thereby inflating the bubble. And you are therefore responsible for the consequences, among which completely unrelated people lose lots of money. If only that was the worst of it.
No I don’t think that eating meat, using plastic straws or bags, or drinking Starbucks is my fault any more than using AI is my fault. Those might not be good things to do, but at the end of the day I live in poverty. I’m sorry. I’m not going to shoulder the personal guilt and responsbility that belongs to somebody else.
By your logic, when you give your vote to a fascist party, and they proceed to win the election and turn your country into a fascist dictatorship, then that is also not your fault.
I genuinely think that it is morally rephrenensible to vote for a fascist.
However, you are correct. I don’t think Trump’s presidency is the fault of ‘Trump voters.’ I think Trump voters are assholes, but unless they are all also billonares with near infinite money, or members of a secret orginization containing only high-ranking military officials, or a member of a well-connected secret hacking group or something, I don’t think they could have done anything about Trump or someone like him rising to power. I think this because I try to think about and understand power dynamics. This is fucked up an unfortunate to think about and acknowledge, but confronting reality is the first step to changing it.
NGL, top right actually goes pretty hard
Microsoft CEO slop needs to shut his sloppy AI mouth.
So stop calling the slop slop?
Gee I dunno, maybe start by making an OS that isn’t so sloppy.
You want people to stop calling it a sloppy joe? Make hamburgers instead
But us kids like 'em sloppy!
Billy Madison?
Brilliant. This will definitely work. I’m sure no one will call it slop anymore. /s
What a fuckin’ idiot.
Good job, Satya, no one you pay will call it slop in front of you. That’s all you accomplished, but I doubt anyone was anyway. The rest of the world will now call it slop just as often, if not more often, to spite your stupid face.
He’s a moron. There is a reason why people call it slop. Because it’s fucking slop.
and I want him to stop calling slop “AI”.
Oh, the same CEO that has systematically ruined everything the company has ever made? The same CEO that does not even have a path to profit for AI? The same CEO that admitted that they don’t know how their own products really work anymore? The same one?
The CEO wants us to do a thing, and based on how they are actively pushing everything towards total clown town, I think it is in our best interest to do the opposite of what that slop CEO asks.
Yeah, the title of the article might as well be “Microsoft’s Satya Nadella wants you to stop pointing out that his entire management ‘strategy’ for Microsoft is a complete total shit show akin to punching holes on a boat below the waterline whilst claiming the thus lighter hull will make it go faster”
I always wonder if CEOs are like this because they live in a bubble of never being told off. They always come off as being the most out of touch, insane people that have the worst takes. Could that be due to spending most of their time around people that always do what they say?
I reckon it’s just them doing cold calculating analyses towards the objective of “keeping on suckling from the golden tit” - shame is something that detracts from personal upside maximization when saying something shamelessly self-serving will support one’s own continued opportunities to make money, even if just a little bit: if claiming their work is really, truly, visionary stuff rather than the inept, uncoordinated actions of the incompetent might get them a few more months and a few more millions whilst saying no such things is certain to deliver no such gains, then the cold calculating analysis yields the logical conclusion than doubling down on bullshit is a better option than not doing so.
(I mean, this is the whole culture of both Politics and Tech “Entrepreneurship” nowadays: Keep on spewing self-serving bullshit until by some lucky happenstance something purely by chance goes right for you and you make it, or fail, either way cashing in for as long as you can keep the whole building of smoke & mirrors standing)
I expect this applies just as much when they’re being checked out for possible hiring into such well paid positions (i.e. their version of “job interview”) as it does in claiming that piss is in fact gold whilst defending their own actions as CEOs in order to keep on getting paid millions for what they themselves know is competence in producing a grand show of smoke and mirrors rather than of the managerial kind, so it’s a natural process that keeps on delivering such people to such positions where they do such a shitty job whilst claiming that what they really are is misunderstood visionaries.
But line went up so by financial standards he is very successful.
(yes, I hate it too and it should be changed)
Which is the whole think of enshitification. Doing something that produces actual value for society? That’s nice, might be somewhat rewarded. Manage to exploit whatever you have done to extract revenue any possible exploitative way? That’s going to be way more rewarded.
Indeed, I was just pointing it out as the higher level cause since this is what needs to be fixed.
I just setup a new laptop. Straight from the store, never been turned on before.
First thing in the Windows installation is a step called “something went wrong”. Not even kidding.
MS is slop, with or without AI.
Love that about all the big names. My father always buys Apple stuff, because “it just works™”. Gave me his old iPad, I tried to factory reset it the official way. Didn’t work, didn’t give me any clue why it did not work, because “that just never happens”. In the end some Linux command line magic and a cable did the trick 😂. Such work, much wow.
The first thing I did was install linux (alongside). About a year later, the windows died on me without warning and irrecoverably. I guess I Should have wiped windows in first place.
This PC wasn’t for myself. The user only needs it for webmail and other browser stuff, but still insisted on it having Windows and MS office.
It seems to work fine now, but I guess I will see it again soon enough.
It’s because of their massive investment into data centers. They’re spending billions of dollars on them and they’re expecting people to rejoice, not call them slop.
If we keep calling them slop, we might make their investors sweat a little. I think it’s time to double down.
MicroSlop.
And I would love it if Mr. Nadella stopped working for a company whose name perfectly describes his genitals.
I admire the one person so far who down-voted this because… it’s not nice to body-shame, especially about something that isn’t in your control, such as penis size.
That said… I approve of this message. Satya Nadella can fuck right off with his tiny penis. I can’t post it here because it’s NSFW, but I have image evidence that Mr Nadella has a very, very small penis. I asked Copilot to show me, so I know it’s accurate.
Agreed fully. It definitely isn’t nice to shame anyone for having a small penis. I just like saying it because I know he’s the sort of person who would get really, really pissed off by it. :-)
This image, though… part of me wants to look it up, but part of me knows I wouldn’t be able to go back from that.
yeah, nah. I don’t think I’ll be doing that, actually.
What are they going to do in 5 years when the internet is 99% slop? How will then train the models then? Will we be forever stuck with 2025-2026 models because there isnt enough new human content to train on?
Money line go up in the short term. Who cares if they’re creating a hallucinating slop ouroboros that will ruin the internet for the foreseeable future? That’s the next CEO’s problem!
You half-joke, but it is not a joke: https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/
There really is no product too big, no sacrifice too self-destructive if it makes the line go up next quarter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_collapse?wprov=sfla1
It’s called model collapse, and actually it’ll get worse not just stay the same.
They are going to do what they always do: gaslight us, hype some other dumb product as the next smartphone/internet/etc, and further monetize everything
The Chinese models are way ahead of this, training smartly and frugally instead of on a huge quantity. They don’t really need more internet to work fine as tools.
…And they share data with each other, and ignore copyright. Seemingly. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Chinese govt is providing a lot of data to them.
Also, it turns out multilingual training works very well. So even if the English internet turns to slop, other languages may fare better.
What about this coherent answer that I am composing for you? Clearly ten mice brains carefully placed over silicone chips can compute prime numbers much faster than 20 undergrads ever could. So who fo you want in your laptop? Ten rats, just more Pentium, 20 undergrads, or windows 25?
