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Hell this is exactly why I am here at all. I noticed it was harder and harder to use Reddit: algorithm taking over. All moving to harder to find places, and it seemed even then to be more flooded with what was recently looking at instead of just general community vibes.
Searched for Reddit alternatives…
I’m so tired of engagement algorithms.
Let it burn.
The last few years have really solidified Reddit’s collapse. It’s not going to happen overnight. In 5 years it’ll be a shell of itself. It’ll feel like Digg.
The front page of the internet has now removed their front page. Amazing.
so instead of browsing /r/all, my mobile experience will consist of solely visiting the handful of niche subreddits i have favourited? thanks, I guess?
seriously this, it’s dogshit if you only go to a few subreddits, even if they aren’t favourited. I gues /r/random will have to do a lot of that heavy lifting now. It’s going to be subreddit 50/50 - either you boring or great subreddits, or furry stuff.
I dont believe Random is a thing anymore. Its been a while but last I checked clicking on it said the sub had been banned.
edit: yup banned. It says it was banned 3 years ago due to being unmoderated. Whatever that means.
dafuq? r/random used to just be a vanity link that redirected you to a random sub. how you gonna ban that… unless you know you’ve chased off all the people who do the work of making the site you run worth while and showing random subs will just put that on disply
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Lmfao what. This is hilarious.
Another W for Lemmy
“The front page of the internet removes the front page of the internet.”
They’ve surpassed Digg levels of chicanery.
reddit_enshittification++
A friend just sent me this video unrelated, but it was pretty good timing
wow that’s awesome, a great introduction to the concept.
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IIRC, the Reddit’s r/all is akin to Lemmy’s /all, right? If this proceeds, then it’s also similar to Mastodon’s Live Feed (global firehose), which recently (few weeks ago) got deactivated by mastodon.social admins. I wonder if both situations have any direct relationship.
So is this so they can force an algorithm on you to show you content? Sounds like they want more direct control over what “new” things people see.
Uh…no? Why would r/all not use an algorithm?
So I looked it up and as I thought, the core basis of sorting for reddit is based on a weighting algorithm looking at thumbs/comments. People suspect that other information, like locality are used to (hence you typically get posts in your language), but there is supposedly limited user based info used in the ranking of posts (people generally see the same content on r/all)
What I was hypothesising is that reddit wants to get rid of r/all so they can create a more tiktok/Instagram like feed based on individual user behavior. Both to make the app more addicting and/or have greater control/influence on what you do/don’t see.
r/all is Reddit.
Are you guys dumb or something?
This perfectly encapsulates how I feel.
It’s the only part of Reddit I use anymore.
*used
I thought it was useful to learn of other/new subs so people could join them?
This will probably end up costing many subs a new influx of users without those users specifically searching for that sub.You will see what the corporate donors tell reddit to show you.
They still have /popular, which is kinda like all but specific to your region? It’s more targeted anyways.
of course they got rid of the one non algorithmic thing they had.
/r/all was also algorithmically curated. Not to mention easily and heavily gamed by bots, trolls, and state-sponsored disinformation campaigns.
That’s how we got Trump in the first place. /r/the_donald was constantly shoved in everyone’s face, and even Reddit had to eventually admit the system was compromised. IIRC they adjusted the algorithm in an attempt to counterbalance it sometime around…2017? I forget exactly but it was definitely too late.
Lemmy’s not structurally better in that regard, unfortunately. If we’re not already inundated with bots and other malefactors (big if tbh), it’s just because we’re not big enough to attract them yet.
wait /r/all isn’t just pulling any post from the database regardless of subscription to subreddit? i just assumed all would be all.
Sort of. But the sorting algorithm is not so simple that you can call it neutral or natural.
I don’t think the details of Reddit’s ranking algorithm are public. Even within a single sub, it’s not as simple as counting user votes. That’s weighed against age, and all sorts of fuzzy bot/fraud detection mechanisms. I think Reddit intentionally injects noise into the system. You’ll see phantom votes all the time to keep things “balanced”.
And then in /all, I believe some subreddits are banned entirely, and again it’s not as simple as “most votes” or “most votes weighed against age”.
Here’s a Chicago Tribune article from 2016 that mentions the change I mentioned before: https://www.chicagotribune.com/2016/12/01/reddit-to-crack-down-on-most-toxic-users-of-pro-trump-forum/
Reddit had to change one of its algorithms over the summer to try to stop r/the_Donald from dominating the board that displays all of Reddit’s content, known as r/all.
It’s light on details and again, I don’t think details were ever published. Reddit is closed-source so really it’s anybody’s guess how they’re really ranking posts.
It was the late 2010s, yerp. The same time they started inflating vote totals and removed the ability to see upvote and downvote counts separately. Maybe even before 2017… it’s been quite a while now.
What the flying fuck. Jesus christ how can they be so brazen in their forcing people to browse how they want
And it’s not like they needed to be so brazen. Tik tok manages to do it while still appearing to be “all”
I guess it seems good that they are being obvious, but it makes me worry about it being a distraction.
I think the average reddit user is capable of a lot of suffering. Good I dumped this trash site when they got rid of 3rd party clients.
They’re nothing compared to progressive Xwitter users
