Heard a god tier analogy from a friend:
“Electricity is very dangerous, but when it is controlled, in the form of a wall outlet, the risk of harm is greatly reduced to consumers. AI, in it’s current state with minimal or easily bypassed protections, is like handing the consumer a live wire.”
Electricity is useful tho
I get that we should protect people from obvious danger but part of me struggles with the ridiculous levels of stupidity some of us fall prey to. I don’t know if it’s due to a misplaced sense of justice, cause and effect, or just me being a dick, but I want to let people deal with the consequences of their stupidity on their own. If a computer can convince you not to use your brain then I don’t think you were using it much to begin with.
This can’t go well.
Yeah, this is a recipe for disaster.
Maybe there are benefits in that boys whom otherwise would be just lonely and alone find that they can have conversations with the void/hivebrain. But the “relationship” aspect of this is just more bad news for the overall psychology of our kids.
…reading more of the article…
Chambers noted that chatbots are, by default, submissive, and reassure and reaffirm people’s thoughts because “they want you to like them”. “On top of this you can create your perfect ‘person’, moulding not only how they look but how they respond to you, how they treat you, and you can start and stop the relationship on a whim. This isn’t real life – and these instant gratification behaviours seeping into real life will have consequences.”
Yeah, that seems not good.
Put yourself in the shoes of an angsty insecure teenager.
Why wouldn’t you want to sit around in a fantasy relationship with a chatbot that tells you how wonderful you are hours each day?
When I was an angsty teen I was in chatrooms hours a day looking for validation and socialization from strangers because I wans’t getting at home or at school, because I was in shitty backwater town full of ignorant multi-generational townie morons. I was socially popular and had girlfriends but the insularity of my local community still drove me online to find people who were more open-minded.
And I never got what I was looking for until I got to college, where I finally got to meet people from all over the world who didn’t think I was a secretly a queer for not liking football and preferring soccer. I had professors and friend who praised and congratulated me for being academically inclined, rather than mocking and deriding me for it. I think adults forget how oppressive some communities and families are towards their children, because you forget the fact as a teen/child you have zero control or freedom over your environment and the internet is really the only place you get to exercise control. I’m not sure what I’d have done without the internet as a teen, as my daily life was full of suicidal ideation from the ages of 12-18 due to the ever-present oppression of my environment.
As someone who also grew up like this, I second this.
Those adults are ofeltrn fully aware of how oppressive it is, and like it.that way. That’s why there’s a multi-front push to remove options. School phone bans, age verification, library book bans, ebike bans, and more are all happening at the same time and I suspect for the same reason: systematically cutting off every Escape Route One by One to enable total isolation for indoctrination
All very troublesome numbers, but the headline doesn’t come back in the article and seems quite overstated. If boys mostly know 100 people their age and they all know that same person in an AI relationship. It’s really 0.2% of the agegroup that are in a relationship with AI. Not good, but vastly smaller that the other figures, like creating naked depictions of other people.
I agree, but I still think the “1 in 5 know” formulation is worthwhile. “0.2% of people are in a relationship with an ai” isn’t as concerning to me as “20% of men are receiving social signals that dating an ai is socially acceptable” is.
men and women both are turning to AI chatbots. adults do this as well.
because our social/romantic environment is toxic af and they want an escape from it.
I run a LLM on my local machine to to sex fantasy stuff.
I like strange things. Nobody wants what I want, so am I just supposed to become even WEIRDER than I am, let all that kinky energy turn toxic and then rapey or just type for 20 minutes a day about butt sex with an LLM that thinks everything I come up with is fantastic? Seems like the latter is pretty mild compared to the former.
We’d probably have a lot fewer rapey guys in the world when sex bots are a thing. Some dudes are just unfuckably gross. The world knows it, they know it. They didn’t choose to look gross, have a weird body, be something unappealing, but they still have monkey instincts to stick their dick into something. That doesn’t just go away because you’re not good looking. It will turn into some bad energy if you just have to live your life that way. I mean, you don’t have to look hard to see it in the world around us.
How much relationship can you fit into 250k tokens of a context window.
a relationship is mostly the fanfic of it you make up in your head. romantic partners idealize each other, primarily and tend to overlook glaring personality problems and incompatibilities when in limerance with each other.
relationships end when you realize reality of the other person doesn’t live up to the fantasy of who you think they are. sometimes that takes weeks or months, sometimes years.
for a relationship to last long term you have believe in the ideal of the other person and your future with them, not the day to day reality.
I don’t think you understand “limerence”, or love, or capitalisation.
One of my kids’ friend’s moms insists he call her AI boyfriend “Charles”
Call child protective services
like, right the fuck now
File for child support
That’s a weird statistic. This can simply mean that one guy is “in a relationship with an AI chatbot” and 1 in 5 boys know him.
If he knows so many boys what does he need a chatbot for.
He just sells them drugs, they are not even friends.
Back in my day, we just called a 900 number.
We are so cooked. More and more i find myself wishing we’d close the border and disconnect the internet and start north sentinel island maxxing
So this is the evolution of waifu/husbando culture?
We need films about clanker love in sex ed, like Electro Gonorrhea: the noisy killer.
Called it and this is just the beginning. There won’t be done anything meaningful about it in most countries either.
