Ah so they put the antichrist into an app (cheap imitation of the Messiah)
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Didn’t the pope already say it was sacrilegious to do this?
All the AIs are trained on public domain texts like the bible, just prompt your favorite AI to take on the role.
But there are issues of perspective even within the bible, like who are the reliable narrators? Who was pushing an obvious agenda or how was the text changed in the ensuing millennia? AI is not a biblical scholar, that’s a whole different, more complex concept.
People will just use this as confirmation bias of whatever they want to believe about the bible.
Just when you thought AI couldn’t play any deeper into the delusions of the stupid and gullible. Bravo AI. Now excuse me while I go lay down on some train tracks.
As a religiously neutral person (I don’t fit with either atheists or agnostics), I like the idea of this.
There is a finite amount of information about Jesus… and a lot of speculation. There are also other books that are not part of the Bible because those who curated the Bible chose not to include them. The first five books of the New Testament for example, the Gospels of Luke, John, and the others, are the stories of Jesus, but they differ slightly due to each disciple’s interpretation. You may ask why Judas didn’t get a book? He wrote one. But it was not included because he was the traitor who betrayed Jesus. So he doesn’t get a say. But, what if he did?
I’d like to see this chat bot be very transparent about its sources. By default it should limit itself to what is in the Bible, but it should also be possible to add other sources as well. If Christians are truly serious about the command by God to not add anything to the Bible, a Jesus chatbot should be more trustworthy than some Biblical scholar’s book about Jesus. The latter is speculation while the former should only be sourced from the Bible. Sure, it might be sacrilege, but if it’s done right, I think it could be an invaluable tool for priests who want to run their planned sermon — since a lot of them now are writing them on a computer anyway — by “Jesus” to have “Him” tell them if anything goes against the Bible and how they could improve it.
I’d just be curious what it says about certain controversial topics, especially if it goes against the Christian grain, and can source its reasoning with Scripture. To avoid blasphemy, it should also tell you straight up that it is not pretending to be Jesus, but rather, is only using the entire Bible (+ whatever sources you add) to help you understand what Jesus, as portrayed in those sources, would say. I imagine it would be against abortion, for example, since the act of a married het couple is an act of God and the fetus would have a soul. It would be less sure if the parents were not married, but I think it would still be against it. That said, it would probably be for immigrants and the poor. It would point out that homosexual sex is considered an unclean act, but the actual love and relationship itself is not and that a pious life would counteract that, and it could also point out that everyone sins and lives unclean lives, and that’s the whole point of John 3:16. But, what do I know, I’m not a Christian. I’ve just read the Bible. A long time ago. But I feel like I got the message.
You may ask why Judas didn’t get a book? He wrote one. But it was not included because he was the traitor who betrayed Jesus.
More that it was a weird heretical Gnostic text. And extremely doubtful that it would have been Judas who wrote it - really seems more like a second century text. There are tons of pseudepigraphal gospels floating around.
I imagine it would be against abortion, for example, since the act of a married het couple is an act of God and the fetus would have a soul. It would be less sure if the parents were not married, but I think it would still be against it.
See the ordeal of the bitter water for what the Bible has to say on abortion.
I mean, heresy was invented to suppress politically conflicting directions of Christianity. Gnosticism was a popular direction at one point I’m history, dominating the “mainstream” in some parts of the world. There were more Marcian churches than trinitarian. Gnosticism is only weird from your perspective, after it was already basically outlawed. Admittedly, that is probably a valid justification for calling it with weird, but I’d like to make a distinction that it is not weird on its own, only because it got banned. In fact, in the context of being influenced by Greek philosophy, it was quite logical. Judas gospel was probably not written by Judas, but other, canonical gospels was probably not written by original authors too, at least some of them.
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Nope.
Christians sure do love their blasphemy
Surely the second commandment was more of a suggestion.
Look, as long as I can keep the mistranslations that back up my internalized bigotry, I’m good.
Rules only ever apply to the out-group.
that’s about as graven as an image can be lol
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Regardless of your thoughts on religion, this is a total trash AI chatbot.
It’s just a custom ChatGPT edit: with Bible verses as a RAG, and this guy charges $2.99 a month to unlock the “other characters.” As expected, zero external theological reference is used.
I’m more upset I didn’t think of it first. Literally anyone can do this.
Take pride in being more Jesus-like than any of those assholes. You’re poor because you don’t spend your time concocting ways to fleece other poor people out of what little money they have.
I bet 1000 dollars that it’s not trained on shit and just a openai wrapper with the bible as rag
100%
exactly, anyone could’ve build this shit in an hour. The fact that it has made the news in Christian circles is fucking concerning.
I’m more upset I didn’t think of it first.
Maybe nobody’s done Muhammad and Buddha yet.
If you meet the Buddha on your phone, uninstall him
Do you want a Jihad? Because this is how you get a Jihad.
Edit: and I was thinking of doing Ronald Reagan and Lincoln and being that conservative cash in my own pocket, then gas lighting them all into something absurd like compassion.
His English is pretty good for someone born in first-century Judea.
https://biblehub.com/q/was_jesus_omniscient.htm
Omniscience refers to the ability to know all things-past, present, and future-completely and without limitation.
Conclusion
Scripture consistently presents Jesus as fully God and fully man, possessing all divine attributes, including omniscience.
I suppose that establishes it. Jesus is presumably also fluent in Cockney rhyming slang.
If Jesus is omniscient and we can talk to him now, then Google and Ai become obsolete… uhm, wait…
I don’t think you’ve heard the news, but… He’s been always among us.
Sus.
The Vatican is going to hate this even more, ever since the Pope voiced his concerns over AI.
The Vatican has been too “woke” for the right-wing for at a couple popes now.
A Charlie Kirk feature is expected soon to provide access to the 13th disciple.
It must be so interesting to be in a room with these people, puzzling out new ideas to separate stupid people from their money.
Chatting with fictional characters via AI is nothing new.
I know many people who were chatting with god even without any apps or AI.
DMT be like that.
Schizophrenia. Anytime my ex-MiL went off her meds, she’d hear voices from the walls.
Jesus very probably did exist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jesus
I don’t know if the historicity of any of the other figures listed has been established. I mean, Jesus had a mother, for example, but I don’t know if there’s any reason to believe that she was anything like Mary as the Bible describes her.
I’d guess that most of the Biblical figures with established historical existence are gonna be major figures like Pontius Pilate.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_biblical_figures_identified_in_extra-biblical_sources
That a jesus (probably) existed does not mean the jesus of the bible is that jesus.
Just like robinhood might be based on an amalgamation if real outlaws, the character of robin hood as popularly understood is still fictional.
I do think there’s a meaningful distinction to be made between something being attributed to a real person and a fictional character being loosely based on real people, though. Like, I think we can be pretty confident that the events in the Epic of Gilgamesh didn’t really happen (at least not literally), but if Gilgamesh was, like is generally accepted, a real person, the Gilgamesh in the Epic is most likely supposed to be that guy. Whereas Robin Hood was probably never meant to be any particular person.
That said, do we actually know whether all the stories in the Bible about Jesus were originally about the same individual? The new testament was written decades and centuries after the death of historical Jesus, by people who didn’t even live in the region, right? So all the stories the authors heard would have come from traders and missionaries of Christian cults with vocal traditions. That alone is very long game of telephone, but I imagine every town at the time would have at least one person claiming to be messiah, and if one of them became a big enough deal that rumours around him spread beyond town, there would also be bunch of copycats. So a lot of room for mix-ups.
“I am Jesus, your king!” “I heard Jesus was buried like three days ago!” “I uh- I have come back from the dead!” And then he skipped town ASAP.
Some of the apocryphal gospels seem really embarrassed about the idea of Mary being a commoner/spinning clothes for money.
There are very old rumors about Jesus being the son of a Roman soldier who raped Mary.
There’s probably something we can peer at, through a glass darkly, about her somewhere there.
“Promised me all the gold I could eat”
Thank you for being the one to post that. It really bugs me when people say Jesus didn’t exist and present it as if it’s uncontroversial fact. Whether you believe in the claims about Him as a Messiah, a divine figure, et cetera are beside the point when discussing His existence. There is actual historical evidence to support that the figure existed and began a ministry around that time. Being anti historical is just bad practice, regardless of the side you’re falling on. Historical Jesus is a fascinating subject.
Again, regardless of your view, love Him or hate Him, a guy was born, said some stuff, and died, and it literally changed the entire course of human history. Religions that reigned for thousands of years do not exist anymore because of Him, the most influential government to exist until the modern era was based on the idea of being the torch bearers of His legacy. Empires rose and fell on His word (or, His supposed words, depending on your point of view). Like… No matter what, it’s a crazily interesting thing, and the idea that any one human can have a legacy like that is amazing. Let’s not downplay it. Heck, if you hate the guy, at least acknowledge He was real so that we figure out how to prevent others from having their message of peace and love so distorted and causing so much grief.
A dude lived 2000 years ago and we’re still talking about him, that’s pretty incredible. Worth learning about. Same with other historical religious figures, like Muhammed, Siddhartha Gautama (the Buddha, although we are slightly less sure he existed, though consensus is that he did), Adi Shankara, and others.
I’m not sure why you’re being downvoted. Just because religions have ruined lives doesn’t mean we can’t acknowledge the historical significance of many of these religious figures.
I mean, glazing over emperors, philosophers, and other historical figures is kinda normal around here despite the same issue of dubious accuracy about their lives.
I don’t really care about down votes, tbh. But disliking a figure and pretending they don’t exist is ridiculous. “Stalin was awful! So he’s fictional!”
… Yeah, bro. That tracks. Lol
Chat With Jesus, Mary, The Apostles — And Even Satan
Most of those people were likely illiterate, and wouldn’t have been able to write the chat messages. You’re gonna get about as much out of Jesus on the other end of a chat program as you would a cat walking across the keyboard.
Meow? :3
What does it say about immigrants?
