RIP Mr T.
That’s some Final Destination shit right there.
Did no one else read the story? I read it and it sounds moreso the clinic’s fault
The necklace he was wearing was a steel weighted exercise band, not a normal necklace. He’s not flexing his wealth or anything
His wife told News 12 Long Island in a recorded interview that she was undergoing an MRI on her knee when she asked the technician to get her husband to help her get off the table. She said she called out to him.
Seems like the technician was told by the wife to bring her husband in to help her up. The technician/clinic made a mistake by letting in the husband, who didn’t seem properly warned about MRIs no metal policy. The technician also somehow didn’t catch the giant “necklace” he’d be wearing.
The “he wasn’t supposed to be there” seems like a coverup for their mistake, since how else would he have known to go in? Someone must’ve told him to walk into the room, it’s not like he could hear through the door.
Edit: 100% the technicians fault, the technician saw it. It even had a metal padlock.
They’d even discussed his training and the hard-to-miss chain with the MRI technician during their previous appointments, Jones-McAllister said.
“That was not the first time that guy has seen that chain” on her husband, she said. “They had a conversation about it before.”Thank the gods for you. I was reading these comments thinking I was insane.
As if my claustrophobia wasn’t enough reason to irrationally strongly dislike the idea of needing to get an MRI again…
What kind of hospital let him get near the room with that kind of metal around his neck? I’ve had to be in several hospitals recently for different imaging issues and every time the MRI is a thing I have to remove everything metal to go past a certain door (escorting my daughter and son for medical reasons). I don’t know who let him anywhere near the room with something that large.
He wasn’t supposed to be in the room. There was a scan in progress when he entered.
Seems to me all they needed was a magnet of equal or greater strength placed opposite of, and perhaps a bit closer to the doorway, to pull intruders away from the MRI room.
His wife told News 12 Long Island in a recorded interview that she was undergoing an MRI on her knee when she asked the technician to get her husband to help her get off the table. She said she called out to him.
Whole thing is heart breaking all around. I feel for the technician who made an honest but very serious mistake. And I’m sure the wife will spend her days regretting asking for help. Just a fucking tragic situation. :/
all they needed was a magnet of equal or greater strength
MRI magnets are electromagnets that are supercooled with liquid helium and take hours to start or stop because of the electrical energy that has to be put in or taken out.
So just having a magnet of equal strengh for idiot defense would be a very significant waste of electricity and helium unfortunately
But it would be funny
Maybe lockable doors
Idk bc some of the articles seem to be contradicting but apparently the door had a lock and the deck opened it
So many dumb ways to die…
9 fucking kilograms!? For my fellow Americans, that’s almost 20 pounds!
I feel like someone should have noticed. I’m pretty sure I’ve never seen someone wearing a twenty pound necklace.
I always knew Roughneck McGee would meet a tragic end. Ironically he wasn’t even wearing his BIG necklace.
Can you convert that to tennis balls? I can’t do this math on my own
The only units I understand are bananas or bald eagles. Please adjust accordingly
I used robots and the answer was 160 tennis balls, which is actually much less than I expected.
Somewhere between 150 and 160, depending on the tennis balls. Hope this helps
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=9kg+%2F+mass+of+a+tennis+ball
Edit: Additionally, that’s about 63½ European swallows, assuming an average weight of 5 ounces. Given that a European swallow must beat its wings 43 times per second to maintain airspeed velocity, it’d be a proper racket.
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Those numbers are from monty python and the holy grail and are very wrong. I am spreading misinformation online.
And if it’s an African swallow?
Not covered in the film and I refuse to get my information anywhere other than Monty Python. The mass of an african swallow is therefore unknowable.
It’s a fair cop
Society is to blame
I’m upset that I can only like this once.
It’s seventy-nine sticks of butter, plus a pat or two
Aka 6 “knobs,” according to Gordon Ramsey.
aka “the bare minimum”
This is why our education system is under funded.
Dude was wearing a 20lb chain while his wife was getting an MRI.
She freaked, and yelled for him, and he ran into the room while the machine was still on and fucking died.
This is 100% their fault, I could almost see an argument that the door needs a lock to prevent idiots with 20l s of metal around their neck from running in, but you don’t want to lock everyone out in case there’s an issue.
There is a lot of conflicting information in the articles im finding about this incident, from her shouting and him running in to him entering the room with the technician, and the technician knew about the chain and had commented on it.
Lmk if you need some examples, but theres a lot.
Im (cynically) inclined to believe that the hospital were the first to give statements and did a quick its-not-our-fault response. Then more people were interviewed. Ill always side with the working class (imo everyone who is not ruling class) rather than the corporations. And in the US the hospital is a corporation for sure.
There’s some gross racial spin surrounding this too, see pic below. It was a weighted padlock steel necklace for his weight training, not whatever is implied by yahoo.
That door should absolutely be locked while in operation. That door being forced open should be an e-stop event.
Someone could walk in there with a firearm or a bowey knife or anything.
Just for your information, the machine, meaning the magnet, is ALWAYS on.
Unless something gets stuck. Then it is shut down and restarted after the thing is removed. Takes hours though, I think the startup was four hours.
They had that happen at the hospital my father worked at, the cleaning lady brought in a stool with steel legs. They tried to remove it by force first, but four men could not do it.
Huh, I thought this was nonsense, but googling proved you’re right. Very cool TIL!
I’m just thinking about the poor woman. She’s forever going to be haunted with the knowledge that she was the one who called him into the room, and thus led to his death. His decision to come in wasn’t thought out, but that probably won’t relieve her feelings of guilt for having called him in. Such a tragic story.
Uh she was in the room likely still on the bed laying down considering the story given. So like she’ll have some rowdy memories of dude getting mushed into a machine a speed then slowly suffocate if they weren’t lucky enough to hit their head really really fucking hard.
She’s not going to have one whit of self awareness. I may be going out on a limb here, but it doesn’t sound like he was exactly the sharpest bulb in the ocean, and her reported cry to “turn off” the MRI (despite the repeated screenings you get prior to an MRI, warnimg patients about metal) indicate she isn’t either. She’s 100% gonna blame the provider and sue, adding to the rising cost of healthcare.
This is a really unempathetic response. I know shit’s tough right now and there are a lot of fools out there, but I beg you to at least try to give the benefit of the doubt and try to think through why people might do the things they do, especially when it’s someone enduring a personal tragedy that’s being publicly scrutinized. Think about the poor old woman who had hot coffee spilled on her crotch at a drive through and endured agonizing disfiguring burns - McDonald’s ran a campaign to paint her as a scammer and opportunist when she had done nothing wrong at all.
Most people don’t intentionally endanger themselves or their loved ones and they are usually very deferential to authority, especially in medical settings. There’s nothing to indicate this was any more than a miscommunication involving a heavily blinged-out guy who did nothing wrong. The MRI folks didn’t think to brief him because he wasn’t in the danger zone. His wife called for help. Maybe a very observant doctor could have noticed the guy’s jewelry and gave him a warning. Maybe the wife could have recalled that her husband was wearing metal before calling for him. Maybe the doctors could have better screening procedures for people in the waiting area, or better procedures to control access to the MRI room. I can’t say based on the available information that anyone lacks self awareness or did anything obviously wrong here. Sometimes a lot of coincidences line up to make something terrible happen.
Aren’t you just a shining beacon of logical, data-driven level-headedness. The fuck is she supposed to do, mentally recite each sign she saw on her way in as her spouse is being crushed before to determine if her request is feasible? Crawl out of the MRI, past her dying partner, and go read the manual to see if the MRI has an emergency stop capability before asking the technicians to intervene?
I wish you the best in your future human interactions. I hope very few of them are life-threatening because clearly, you’ll be of no help if you deem the situation avoidable or deem help unlikely to be successful.
You could put an airlock like metal detector door that only opens the second door, if the first door is closed and there’s nothing magnetic inside. People could still go in quickly in emergencies, but nothing that makes it worse can enter.
As much as the machines cost, something like that wired up with a metal detector so that if the machine is on and there’s metal in the airlock it will never open would actually be a good solution…
But it would take a society that values human life and absence of suffering over money. Because like someone else pointed out, the hospital ain’t the one paying to fix the machine.
Maybe Canada would be interested?
This basically never happens. You want to spend billions guarding against humanity stupidity? Good luck with that.
But it would take a society that values human life and absence of suffering over money.
🙄
MRI’s are still plenty dangerous when they aren’t scanning(“on”). The magnets don’t ever turn off unless you release all the helium which is typically a last resort. They can do it slowly for servicing but it’s costly or rapidly for emergencies but it usually trashes things.
Seems like the simplest solution is having a locking observation booth. Family can watch from the booth or go to the waiting room. This doesn’t prevent staff from responding to anything and actually keeps the family out of the way if there is an emergency. No high tech gizmos required. Are they go to like it? Probably not. Then off to the waiting room.
Thanks for the info!
Honestly tho, it’s pretty crazy they let dude roam around a hospital with 20lbs of chain around his neck. That’s literally a deadly weapon.
I don’t care what story he gave, he should have been told to leave it in his vehicle.
i wonder if he had neck pain, to carrying that much weight on his neck.
idk, maybe the hospital has insurance for idiocy. But the people that broke it almost certainly can’t afford an MRI machine, so they ain’t paying.
You could spend billions to implement crazy solutions for every possible scenario.
Or you could just tell the guy not to go in there.
“When you make something idiot-proof, the world builds a better idiot.”
You can idiot proof anything but the world just makes better idiots
That would not cost billions. Not even close. It would certainly be far cheaper than the cost of repair.
Did you forget that thousands of hospitals exist just in the US? Or at least did before 2025.
Not all of them have MRI machines, and regardless of its cheaper than repairing them.
Hundreds probably do though. I don’t know. I’ve never heard of anything like this happening. I think it’s probably exceedingly rare. I had an MRI and the number of times I heard and read the warnings about metal was exhausting. It feels almost impossible that someone could not know about that specific danger.
That would not cost billions. Not even close. It would certainly be far cheaper than the cost of repair.
“I have no idea what I’m talking about so I’ll just assume everything is cheap and easy”
Nah, let them stupids die. I don’t want to risk non idiots lives for the chance of saving a moron.
I apologize if im completely misunderstanding, but what “non idiots” are at risk, in what circumstances? Shouldn’t there always be a tech?
No apology necessary.
There are emergencies that could happen anywhere, including in an MRI room. Dealing with emergencies, ease of ingress and egress is paramount.
The proposed solutions would hamper access to these rooms during emergencies, putting patients and techs in harms way (the non idiots), in the name of preventing a moron from giving themselves a Darwin award.
I think it would be a net negative, ie. more people would die/get hurt trying to make an idiot proof enclosure.
Metal detector on the door to the room.
Don’t forget to pay the repairing fee for the machine
Dude didn’t watch Final Destination Bloodlines 💀
Easy solution : have a pure gold necklace, since gold isn’t magnetic
18kt gold is an alloy with 75% gold and other metals that may be magnetic. I wouldn’t trust a gold chain around my neck with an MRI.
So, an all aluminum chain then?
#Fashion
I believe it can still get hot
9kg of gold is worth close to $1mill. Mr T is baller enough to do that
it mustve been ferrous material, because gold isnt super magnetic. like steel or iron.
Apparently the chains started when he was a bouncer. Sometimes people would lose them, while getting kicked out. He would wear them, so that had to come and ask him politely for them. His collection built when they were either too scared, or too egotistical to ask for them back.
That’s the story he told the news in the 80s after he was famous…
If you don’t think Mr T was playing Debo, I don’t know what to tell you.
IIRC Mr T stopped wearing his gold chains because he came to feel that they were tone deaf.
The best part about Mr. T’s gold necklaces is that he got the idea from working a bouncer. The man became a literal living mannequin, holding onto people’s gold chains like some kind of ass-kicking coat check.
Moving fields, eddy currents still apply.
Copper isn’t magnetic either https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu1uRvErM80
Well, TIL. There goes my hopes of showing up to the MRI room with a giant gold necklace
Ehh, if you’re gonna go, it’ll at least be memorable :) I suspect we’ll both pass without even a lemmy shitpost.
Easier solution: take off your damned metal necklace.
Was the necklace even related to the death? It says he had a “series of heart attacks” which doesn’t sound like something caused by being pulled toward the machine.
If the necklace impeded blood flow or even put a lot of strain on his circulatory system then it could have caused his heart attacks.
Sounds like it wasn’t him being pulled towards the machine that killed him, it was being pinned against the machine for a prolonged period of time.
yeah what annoyed me was the Lady asking to just turn it off like you can just turn it off. i know she is desperate to undo her and her husband’s stupidity but the article framing those quotes like the tech was incompetent is bad journalism.
You absolutely can turn it off - it’s called quenching the magnet, and the tech absolutely should have been trained to do that in an emergency. There was no way in hell they were physically pulling him off. It’s obviously what they did eventually, but the article doesn’t say how long 🤷♂️ to be fair, I’d bet that basically all of the damage was done up-front, regardless - MRI magnets are so much stronger than most people realize.
Can you imagine watching your loved one suffer and die in front of you? It sounds extremely brutal
They come with an emergency stop button
I… want to see that 9 kg necklace. I mean, sounds like it’s just a big-ass chain, but if so, how did it not throw up red flags all around letting this guy wear it around that machine.
It wasnt a necklace…
It was a literal metal chain, like steel. Not a gold cuban link chain or something with a huge medallion a rapper would wear.
Apparently this idiot just lived everyday with a 20lb length of chain around his neck for “weight training”. The article mentions it was “a topic of discussion” on a prior visit, so it wasn’t a one time thing.
The type of person to do that, is 100% the type of guy to run into an active MRI like he could do anything. Theres no logical thinking going on, and an outright refusal to listen to qualified medical advice. Like, they make weighted vests, at least do that instead of putting all that weight on your neck.
Yeah, there was a guy in my town who would run around with one of these around his neck. Similar type of idiot. He would actually run by the strength training gym and gloat to us that we were wasting our time lol, insisting that all we had to do was run around with a big chain.
Hearing about this news story now I wonder if some influencer somewhere started a trend. People love feeling like they found “the secret”
Would Piccolo qualify as an influencer?
It has all the Hallmarks…
Starts with something based in science, but never goes past surface logic and ignores lots of existing and safe options for the most visible and attention grabbing method despite the serious medical flaws from this method.
Even if you stay away from 1.5 tons magnets, that’s going to fuck your posture up before it translates to muscular gains.
This trend spreads by chain letter.
The type of person to do that, is 100% the type of guy to run into an active MRI like he could do anything. Theres no logical thinking going on, and an outright refusal to listen to qualified medical advice.
Darwin, engage!
Sounds like a possible Darwin award nomination.
how did it not throw up red flags all around letting this guy wear it around that machine.
He wasn’t allowed in the room.
His wife panicked in the MRI, he charged into the room he was told not to go Into.
Imagine the scene from her POV. She’s claustrophobic and having a meltdown because of all the hums and bangs and then her husband comes running in only to get pulled into the machine she is already stuck inside of. He’s screaming and can’t get pulled free while she is being pushed even harder into the machine she so desparately wants free from - by her husband who is quickly suffocating to death
While you wrote an interesting narrative, if you read the article the story is nothing like this, and even from her point of view would have been nothing like this.
She had asked the nurse to call her husband to help her up from the table. She called out his name and he ran in while the machine was still going.
He was pulled into the machine and was freed eventually but suffered multiple heart attacks after being pulled off the machine. The heart attacks are what killed him in the end in a hospital bed far from the MRI machine. He definitely did not suffocate.
It was a knee MRI. She wasn’t stuck inside it, she just wanted her husband to help get her off of the table instead of just the technician.
Still a horrible scene though, but not quite as horrific as your first imagining.
There probably wasn’t any screaming. MRIs exert thousands of pounds of force at close range. You can imagine what thousands of pounds of metal would do to a neck.
thousands of pounds of force at close range
So tragic, jesus. Also, it was obviously stupid, but in his defense he probably went into fight or flight and wasn’t thinking. Unfortunately he paid for it with his life.
He went in to help her stand up from the machine.
The wife asked to see her husband. I don’t think the blame rests solely on the couple. The nurse should’ve stepped in. I’m also not sure why there wasn’t a emergency stop button.
There was on one that I’ve been in, not sure about this one.
From my understanding, when an MRI is emergency stopped it doesn’t stop immediately, and it causes a lot of damage, so staff are less likely to use it in an emergency. Stupid, yes. But when you’re worried about getting fired for hitting a button, you’re less likely to think of a situation as an emergency. You would think “chain strangling a man” constitutes an emergency though…
As for the staff not stopping the guy making a beeline for the door with more than just words, I’m not sure. I would prefer staff tackle me to the floor rather than let me blithely walk to my doom. Of course I’m only in my 30s…
The hospital is absolutely partly to blame, especially if they didn’t properly convey the danger beforehand. All 3 hospitals I’ve recieved an MRI from have been pretty insistent about making sure I have no metal on or around me before I go in the doors though.
I’d say it’s about 60/40 on the hospital.
9kg is around 20 pounds. what, did he have a kettlebell as a pendant?
the answers to all your questions lie in the article you didn’t read
The article doesn’t really answer much about the necklace though. I want to see a picture of it and understand why the fuck someone would wear it. Like “for weigh training” but what the fuck is he exercising on a random day in the hospital.
Great! Could you kindly extract them to further our article-non-reading habits?
According to the article, it was a weight training chain
Cube: MRI
It really sucks, but of course it was an idiot from Nassau county 🙄
For anyone who might not know the area, Nassau County is the place that gave us George Santos. It is burgundy-red, only bested in racism by Suffolk county. The police departments are notoriously racist and will pull you over and interrogate you just for driving a beater. This was one of Trump’s favorite police departments during his first term, he infamously told them to bash people’s heads against their cop cars when arresting them.
Sadly there are many very left leaning people trapped on Long Island, unable to leave because LI is an employment wasteland. It’s not cheap to live on LI either.
Anyways, an idiot from Nassau won’t be missed.
Do not forget it was LI was basically kkk hq for a while.
To be fair this seems like a honest oversight
He entered the imaging room unauthorised. It was an honest Darwin Award
…someone probably should’ve stopped him
You don’t know what you don’t know. He probably wasn’t even thinking about how MRI machines work.
The technician let him in. There was an oversight somewhere but we don’t really know the details. Was the necklace under his shirt, was the receptionist on break, etc etc
Wearing a NINE kilogram necklace.
That’s like approaching a campfire with clothes made out of tinder after soaking in some gasoline and drinking alcohol.
Don’t know how quickly custom vinyl stickers can be bought & delivered, but someone needs to slap a “Died Like A Cartoon Character” achievement on his casket/headstone.
put one on the MRI. how many of them actually score a fatality?
So, if the MRI spins at 12 RPM, does the dude also spin at 12 RPM?
Asking for a friend.
The detector spins around the patient, but does the magnetic field spin too? I though not, but I’m not that certain.
Nope, the detector is separate from the magnet - the magnet encircles the patient completely, and doesn’t move. I’m sure the magnetic field is affected slightly by the rotating machinery, but that should be consistent and would be accounted for in the imaging algorithms.
Oh, TIL. Thanks!
Yeah I considered the supercooled electromagnert couldn’t possibly rotate, but I wasn’t sure if it could be modulated to change field directions or something. Didn’t seem very likely. Thanks for the confirmation.
I imagine his head was plucked like a ripe tomato in the garden.
I doubt it, obviously depending on the applied force.
Skin is rather tough to rip with a blunt tool so yeah, maybe the head was disconnected from the spine immediately, making him look like a giraffe spinning at 12 RPM round and round.
Nope. Tomato theory hold up better.
